A Good Camera To Start With

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Re: A Good Camera To Start With

Postby bob_r » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:45 am

Edd wrote:Hi Bob,

Have a look here, http://www.warehouseexpress.com you can pre-order now if you want too :D :D

Ed


I'm going to wait until I see some actual reviews and then decide. I'd like to see what the new 5D will have to offer too. I don't expect to go full frame, but since I'm going to wait for the reviews of the 50D, I may as well wait for the ones for the 5D too. (Of course, by then the 60D may be released. :) )

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Re: A Good Camera To Start With

Postby Edd » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:52 pm

Don't blame you Bob.

I never buy anything that has just been launched, wait 6 - 12 month let them iron out the problems first then consider buying.

I'm 99.9% sure the 40D is the one for us, just need to be patient and see what happens to the prices now.

When you say "Full Frame" what do you mean by this. I have seen the term used quite a lot but I don't understand it ? :?

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Re: A Good Camera To Start With

Postby bob_r » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:48 am

The 5D does not have a cropped sensor so if your lens is a 300mm, you'll get a 300mm field of view. With a 10/20/30/40/50D or the Rebels, you have a 1.6x cropped sensor so your field of view would be similar to a 480mm. The crops work great for telephoto, but you lose a lot on the wide end. Also, since the sensor in the 5D is full size (same as a 35mm), there's more area to capture the image and consequently more resolution. Another bonus for using a cropped camera, is that they use more of the center of a lens rather than the outside edges (except for the APS-C lenses), so they normally get a little sharper image from a less than stellar lens.

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Re: A Good Camera To Start With

Postby gldiana » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:17 am

Let's not forget that a full frame sensor camera (the sensor is 35mm wide just like a film frame) also captures more light so the quality of the image is higher and the autofocus works better.
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Re: A Good Camera To Start With

Postby gldiana » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:26 am

The 50D is the successor to the 40D. The 5D line ends here and the 7D (unofficial) will be a brand new line. No 5D Mark II.
Rumor has it that the 7D will have Double Digic 4 Processor, 16MP.

Photokina is the biggest photo show, happens every two years, and more details will be announced then (or maybe even sooner with cameras available at the show).

Offical 50D info here:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=17499

We should see some major improvement in low-light conditions with this camera. ISO 3200 now is part of the standard setting and not a boosted feature.
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Re: A Good Camera To Start With

Postby bob_r » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:55 am

gldiana wrote:Let's not forget that a full frame sensor camera (the sensor is 35mm wide just like a film frame) also captures more light so the quality of the image is higher and the autofocus works better.


According to this gentleman, the AF on the 50D works better than even the 1DmkIII's. This seems to be the only on line review of the 50D and he was paid to review it, so how much is accurate and how much is advertising isn't clear.

http://tv.mediaprovider.se/brutus_ostli ... 56037.html

(edited to correct link)

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Re: A Good Camera To Start With

Postby gldiana » Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:46 pm

I don't know what the guy has smoked... the 50D has a 9 point AF sensor, the 1Ds MKIII has 19 plus cross-types. The 50D AF sounds great on the paper but it gets nowhere near the 1Ds MKIII.

As for the review, It's the net, you know... people will do anything to attract attention. I really doubt Canon would give a random swedish guy their new camera for review before giving it to any of the major photo websites. Plus, the camera is never shown in the video and the shutter sound doesn't even sound like a real shutter... ok, I'm nitpicking now :)
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