Choices–Nikon or Canon?

Zion's Sandstone Walls with Late Autumn Snow by Jay Goodrich
Zion's Sandstone Walls with Late Autumn Snow © Jay Goodrich

I am not looking to start the usual war, I am actually looking for some sound advice. I have come to a crossroads with my photography equipment. All of my Canon lenses are out of date and I could upgrade at least one of my bodies. This is where the dilemma comes in. Do I continue shooting with Canon or move on to Nikon? It is not an easy choice. Which is why I would like to here what you have to say. If you shoot one or the other, let me know why and what you like most about your choice. Here are some of the pros and cons that I see right now with the research that I have done.


  • Unbelievable high ISO noise reduction
  • All of the pro level cameras have full frame sensors
  • All of the pro level cameras shoot a fairly fast frame rates
  • Sharp glass
  • Ah that 200-400mm zoom everyone keeps talking about
  • Not as much HD Video included in the line
  • Better autofocus
  • Don’t remember the system that much at this point


  • Not so good high ISO noise reduction
  • All full frame cameras have slow frame rates
  • Poor autofocus - even though the 1D Mark IV is better it still isn’t that great (from personal testing)
  • All new upcoming lenses
  • Some really sharp glass
  • Ah that 17mm tilt/shift lens and the upcoming 8-15mm fisheye
  • Better video component to the entire line
  • Suffering image quality out of some of the cameras due to better video
  • I know it like the back of my hand at this point

Now I am not one of the most techie, gear guys out there. I truly believe that the equipment is just a tool, and the vision of the user is what creates a successful image. However, when the gear begins to progress with new features, then it is time for an upgrade. So what do you think? Should I stay or should I go?


    This is a problem I had a few years ago. I’m hard on equipment and had a film history of Nikons. Because of this I chose Nikon for my digital. I don’t deal much with video so that was not a concern for me. I really like the feel and balance of the D3s that I had the opportunity to use on a recent trip to Madagascar. The camera and lens was comfortable to use and even though I’m only 5’7″ It was a dream to use. The 2.8 lenses I used were tack sharp and fast focusing which I really needed. I’d give both makers a try and then make a decision. What’s comfortable for you is the best as both brands have their loyal fans. For me ruggedness and fast focus plus high ISO were the most important to me.

    The PROS and CONS you know them well. I’ve shot Nikon always, and I’m more than comfortable with them. A big CON for me in Canon, is the way they feel in your hand, not very ergonomically right, and cheap-plastic feel.

    Just like clothing, try both cameras in your hand and navigate it’s menus to see how they feel. On the level entry cameras from Canon, the wheel on the top is just plain wrong for me. Much more comfortable the thumb wheel on Nikon.

    I have had my D90 for one year now, using Tamron lenses, usually in unfavourable conditions – cold, damp. I have experienced problems with two card failures within the camera – the card is not read by the Nikon but can be read by other cameras and I often have lens connection problems especially with the 10 – 24 Tamron. Perhaps the lens problems would not occur if I only used Nikon.

    I have been a Nikon fan for more than 20 years. I have a lot of friends who are professionals, who use Canon. To me, I like the feel of Nikons in my hand, may be because I am more used to it. The Canons when I handle them feel uncomfortable but it is the same for my friends when they use my Nikon. I have couple of Nikon bodies and Nikon 2.8s. The lenses are very very sharp and are uncomparable. For video, I don’t take them at all with my D300s’ so I don’t care much. For photographs, Nikon is very very very GOOD!

    I shoot Nikon, and a couple other PROS to me are the CLS wireless flash system is really slick especially out in the field, and newer VRII is just amazing!! You can(if you need to) handhold close to 1/4 second!!! That super fast AF and high ISO are just awesome to have?

    Jay, I think you answered your own question in your apparent excitement about Nikon. Why not give yourself a new incentive and learn something new. As I read recently in, the pictures are the same. Which one feels better in your hand and to your eye? There’s your challenge.

    As soon as I hear a question like: “Which camera should I buy” followed by “Canon or Nikon” I immediately assume you got more money than brains.

    There are other brands.

    There are pros and cons to each specific camera, regardless of brand.

    Obviously you can’t really go wrong with either system. In the end it comes down to what features and areas of performance are most important to you, along with the variety of lenses each brand offers. With all due respect to the commenter above me, for most people that last part eliminates Pentax, Sony and Olympus from serious consideration, because of their limited lens lineups. As a Nikon shooter, I often find myself envious of Canon’s lens lineup. Not because Canon’s lenses are superior to Nikon’s – they both make great glass – but because of Canon?۪s greater selection. My budget is somewhat limited, and I find myself wishing that Nikon would introduce lenses already in Canon’s lineup, such as the 70-200mm f/4, and the 400mm f/5.6. Canon also has wonderful specialty lenses, such as the 8-15mm fisheye you mentioned, and the 65mm macro capable of 5x life-size magnification. However, I just can’t bring myself to abandon what I see as Nikon’s superior image quality, especially at higher ISO. Canon?۪s one clear advantage – video – isn?۪t really an issue for me, as I have little interest in video. Nikon’s flash system is also quite wonderful, as another commenter has already mentioned, as is their camera ergonomics. Nikon cameras just always seem to feel better in my hands. I should also add that I?۪ve never had a moments trouble with any piece of Nikon equipment, even though I?۪m using equipment below pro-level. I?۪ve used my equipment in rain, snow, and at temps from 12??F to 95??F, and never missed a beat. Good luck with your decision, and thanks for all the great images, inspiration and tips throughout the year!

    You know, all the full frame sensors from both manufacturers are getting pretty old. Looking at the huge increase in quality that the new APS sensors exhibit, I’d just wait a year. I know that’s hard when you want new gear *NOW*, but think how you’d feel laying out several big ones when the new models come out with even better sensors. That, and Canon seems to have figured out autofocus and higher frame rates with the 7D. Those improvements have to be included in the next round of full frame cameras. A 5D Mark III might be just the ticket.

    Just some thoughts. Since I shoot Pentax I have no investment in either company.

    Like some of the other respondents said, both systems are excellent, and it all boils down to what feels right in your hands and what feels good to you. When digital first got started, I think that Nikon was quite a ways behind the curve and, as a result, Canon handed them their hats. Now, Nikon has definately woken up and caught up. From my experience, which is limited, I believe Nikon pro lenses have the edge in sharpness, auto focus, and other features. VRll is amazing, and VRl wasn’t half either.

    I want to thank you all for the real sound advice. I keep forgetting about the flash system. That is another plus for the Nikon arena. Keep those comments coming and thank you for true insight and not bringing this to a battle level.

    well as one poster commented above…. if cost and lens selection are factors:

    you mentioned Pentax..

    the k5 has a dxo sensor rating above all other aps cams and comparable to the medium format cameras… beating both Nikon and Canon.

    Compatibility with every k lens ever made by Pentax.

    The Pentax 200mm prime was ranked by pop photo as having the best distortion control of any lens they ever tested… Thier tests on the 50 1.4 were also equal or better than the competition even though the lens cost less, much less.

    Pentax has the best lineup of prime lenses of any brand.

    In body Stabilization means every lens is stabilized.

    Build quality and viewfinder meet and exceed Nikon and Canon.

    Now go compare prices on comparable equipment…

    Weather sealing, shake reduction, and build quality…

    What would you pay for a weather sealed, Nikon body with a weather sealed vr 200mm 2.8?

    and yet the k5 with 200 has the same sony sensor as the high end nikon? Compare that to Pentax.

    How many lenses are vr/is in each brans line up? How many weather sealed bodies?

    Bang for the buck there is no better system, for a pro on a budget.

    But Olympus and Panasonic both make fine cameras as well.

    Only a brand snob would turn thier nose up at quality equipment because of brands names.

    Dear young fellows,

    I am an old photographer, using Nikon stuff for 40 years. The first Nikkor additional lens a have it, was a 1970 short telephoto 105mm and still fit and work perfect on my actual 2010, D300s body.

    In short words, that`s means, serious compromise with quality, perfomance and guarantee beyond time. For me a strong motivation to follow this brand.

    Jay, Looking forward to seeing how the decision comes out.

    It’s nice to know that there are no bad choices now as all the better cameras are truly excellent. If I wasn’t so attached to my old Pentax primes I’d have a hellova time weighing the plusses and minuses of different systems.

    When I started Photographing many years ago I tried a variety of camera manufactures before making the investment in ???pro quality?۝ equipment. I went with Canon for reasons long forgotten and for which technology has long overwritten. Switching systems consists of a lot more than just buying new Bodies, Lenses and Flash Systems; there are all the little trinkets that I have collected along the way. And then there is the dreaded ???learning curve?۝, I am not talking about re-learning buttons and menus, I am talking about all the little quirks the every system has regardless of manufacturer, that can only be learned in the field over time. Even with all the potential and unforeseeable issues, I have considered switching systems a few times but realized it doesn?۪t matter what system I use, the technology will never keep pace with my pursuit of perfection. The better the equipment and more advanced the technology the more demands I put on it and the more important good Post Production skills come into the picture..

    @ Don

    You?۪re absolutely correct that recent Pentax DSLRs have been quite good. In fact, I purchased a Pentax DSLR just for fun because I have a collection of old Pentax manual focus primes. The K-5 is definitely an excellent camera. Recent Pentax primes are also quite good. I?۪m a huge fan of them. However, based on the brands he?۪s pondering, I?۪m assuming Jay is interested in a full frame camera. As you know Pentax has not yet entered the full frame market. Most importantly, as I mentioned, the current Pentax lens lineup simply lacks the options that many nature photographers require. There is no currently produced Pentax lens option over 300mm, no tilt-shift lenses, no macro option over 100mm, no fast 70-200mm zoom, etc. A Pentax shooter would need to turn to the used market, or to third-party lenses to fill these needs, and in my opinion that?۪s just not a practical option. For those who don?۪t require such lens options, I?۪d say by all means, have a look at Pentax. For those who do, you have to look elsewhere. That?۪s not snobbery, just fact.

    I have a Canon 5D Mark II and the autofocus system makes me crazy. Anyway, I’m really not sure about Nikon superiority on high ISO photos: if you check Canon 5D Mark II and Canon 1D’s reviews, I fail to see where and how they are inferior to Nikon. In fact, I often use ISO 6400 and live in peace with my Canon!

    Said this, if I were Jay, I’d surely switch to Nikon, just to try and learn something different! Alas, I won’t ever be in such situation, since I already have more than 3Gs invested in Canon lenses…

    well Paul I suppose there is no reasoning with somebody who is badly blinded by marketing hype..

    but dxo labs sensor testing placed the k-5 higher than the FF d-slrs beaten only by a couple of medium format cameras.

    Pentax does indeed have 3 fine macro lenses, 35, 50, and 100 mm.

    In fact Pentax has the only weather sealed stabilized macro on the market.

    Pentax has both a 50-135 2.8 and 200 2.8 both of which are weather sealed and stabilized and combined, are still easily affordable.

    There is also 3rd party lenses to cover tilt-shift and for longer telephoto the big sigmas fit, but there are also a lot of fine used Pentax lenses on evilbay, if you’re looking for something like the legendary 60-250… or a tilt, 400 to 600 zoom mirror..

    But let us be honest, most people don’t actually buy most of the extreme lenses they want.

    Most people buy the more affordable pieces.

    I guess I’m just bothered by the fact that a magazine that touts itself as “OUTDOOR Photography” would publish an article that is so patently biased towards the two brands that are also the two biggest advertisers to the consumers detriment, when it is the consumers that support both the Magazine and the advertisers.

    Pentax has the ONLY system a nature Photographer could possibly cobble together a pro quality, bad weather and cold useable system of:

    Weather sealed sr (shake reduction) body with incredible dynamic range rivaling some medium format systems and exceed all current full frame d-slrs.

    100 % viewfinder magnification, glass pentaprism with interchangeable focussing screens.

    100 mm weather sealed sr macro.

    300mm f4 weathersealed and sr.

    18-55 mm weathersealed sr kit lens.

    50-135 * weathersealed and sr 2.8 zoom.

    10-17 mm fisheye zoom.

    12-24mm zoom

    for an outdoor photographer on a budget, you could get the entire package for about half the price of a similar featured package from either of the two big brands….

    But I suppose if Pentax spent enough ad dollars to convince the publishers to post a “Which camera should I buy? Canon Nikon or Pentax?” Pentax would have to raise their prices on their lenses to pay for it.

    BTW did you guys know Pentax has the only weather and cold sealed medium format d-slr?

    Read up on the 645 d sometime.

    Ideal for outdoor photography if you need big sensors.

    Well Don, I must say, you’ve finally convinced me. Who would have guessed that the vast majority of the world’s professional photographers had “more money than brains”, and could be so easily “blinded by marketing hype.” What an ignorant and gullible lot they must be.

    Btw, I bet Jay must be drooling over that weather-sealed 18-55mm kit lens right about now.

    “Well Don, I must say, you?۪ve finally convinced me. Who would have guessed that the vast majority of the world?۪s professional photographers had ???more money than brains?۝, and could be so easily ???blinded by marketing hype.?۝ What an ignorant and gullible lot they must be.

    Btw, I bet Jay must be drooling over that weather-sealed 18-55mm kit lens right about now.”

    Gullible… I guess that depends on whether they are sponsored or not…

    There is nothing wrong the cameras….. or the lenses…

    just this article reminds me of the Motrorcylist Journalist that got fired for exposing the fact that the (nearly three time the price of dot helmets) Snell helmets manufacturerer’s were touting as safer than dots were actually causing more serious brain ijuries that dot approved helmets a few years back… fired for warning consumers the more expensive helmets were unsafe.

    as for kit lenses, The the kit lens I mentioned faired better in testing than many of the mid range zooms offered by the big two and is a stellar value considering it is also weather sealed and image stabilized….

    There’s nothing wrong with the cameras, I’m criticizing the magazine for pretending there are pros out there creating fine work with other gear so to pretend there is only two brands is unfair to a consumer looking to buy gear.

    My advice for anybody looking for a system for “Outdoor Photography” use is this:

    Look at more than the big two systems.

    For outdoor use, Place priority anything (body’s and lenses) that isn’t weather sealed.

    Place priority on anything that is VR,SR or IS when buying lenses.

    Consider the cost of a spare body, that works with the lenses you are planning to buy. (eg can the lenses for the entry level model work with the flagship model or can the lenses for the flagship model work with the newest models?).

    For the lenses you’ll rarely use are they available for rent or used?

    If you factor in EVERYTHING and look at more than two brands you may find there are bargains to be had.

    Subaru makes a kick butt, inexpensive rocket of a car too, but don’t mention that to a Porche owner….

    My advice for anybody looking for a system for ???Outdoor Photography?۝ use is this:

    Look at more than the big two systems.

    For outdoor use, Place priority anything (body?۪s and lenses) that is weather sealed.

    Place priority on anything that is VR,SR or IS when buying lenses.

    Consider the cost of a spare body, that works with the lenses you are planning to buy. (eg can the lenses for the entry level model work with the flagship model or can the lenses for the flagship model work with the newest models?).

    For the lenses you?۪ll rarely use are they available for rent or used?

    If you factor in EVERYTHING and look at more than two brands you may find there are bargains to be had.

    Subaru makes a kick butt, inexpensive rocket of a car too, but don?۪t mention that to a Porche owner??_.

    I just finished reading Ken Rockwell’s excellent post “Why We Love Film” (here: ) and it’s seriously got me thinking about buying an old Nikon N90s and some inexpensive older lenses and just leaving digital behind! I didn’t realize that film still possesses WAY more resolution than the best digital cameras do and it totally excels when it comes down to the ultimate goal of photography – beautifully printing your work. Not only can you achieve way larger prints but the colors are more vivid (apparently). Anyway, at this point i feel like my paraphrasing is doing his article a great disservice so, please, everyone give it a look. Some great stuff in it 🙂

    p.s. I found this magazine/website from the article when he mentioned:

    “As usual, the cover of the November 2008 issue of Outdoor Photographer magazine was shot on film. They fooled me: I looked at George Ward’s awesome shot from Yosemite and thought “wow, digital is getting good;” but no, it’s good old 4×5″ film.

    Like most magazines and other commercial media, Outdoor Photographer only talks about equipment and techniques covered by companies who buy, or might buy, advertising.

    Since makers of large-format gear buy no ad space, 4×5″ cameras get no coverage in Outdoor Photographer, even if they’re what’s used by serious landscape shooters, and even if 4×5″ gear costs far, far less than digital.”

    -seriously, the whole article is amazing and really makes me feel like we might have actually regressed somewhat. On the plus side, photography is amazing! Happy shooting everyone, whatever format you use 🙂

    Both Canon and Nikon are good, however if you are going to change systems you should look at Sony. Specifically the upcoming a77. Look at DXOmark website for sensor comparisons. Sony makes Nikon sensors. The lens available are getting beter and better especially the Sony 70 – 400 G lens and all of the Zeiss lens.

    I have the Canon 5D Mark II and the ISO is amazing! I’ve shot as high as 2500 with no noise. I just came back from Costa Rica and shot up to 5000 in the dark jungle. The noise wasn’t so bad, and running it through a noise reduction program worked great(had to do a little fiddling around so as not to lose the sharpness of the subject). Here’s an example:

    This was shot hand-held with a 100-400mm lens, from quite a distance aways. You would be stunned if you saw just how dark it was in this forest.

    @ Don

    Sorry, but if someone’s asking between Nikon and Canon, I think it’s quite ok to answer that question It’s a 50/50 possibility. If he was asking about every brand in the world, surely we would be talking of Hasselblad or Leica. If someone asks me if Mercedes or BMW, I wouldn’t go with Rolls Royce for a correct answer.

    You’re right that there are other options, there’s a lot of choices nowadays. But for example, I live in Chile, and the offer here is pretty lousy, unless we order from the US, we can get or a point and shoot, or the classic Canon or Nikon. I think you went a little “violent” in this thread, specially when Jay Goodrich said he wasn’t expecting the classic battle.

    Sebastian, Thank you for your comment. I have just finished reading all of these comments since my last posted one. And I am sorry to have to agree with you that it has become a bit of the old war here too. My mission here was to get some personal advice on a personal decision to stay with Canon or switch to Nikon–looking at the pluses and minuses that I currently see and know about. And hopefully getting additional advice from you the readers, that I may have overlooked. I understand all of the new features that Sony and Pentax are producing and I believe they are vying for a strong place in the professional market. Both these companies do not have a complete system as far as I am concerned. My business model focuses on nature, adventure, and architecture photography. I need tilt/shift lenses, I need super telephoto lenses and I need fisheye lenses. Within those I also have a use for the general zooms as well. This why I limited my decision and request for information from you the readers for just Canon and Nikon. These two companies produce everything that I need for every aspect of my business.

    The Magazine is not the publisher of this blog post, I am and I asked the question here, instead of on my personal blog, because I have a larger pool of people to receive advice from. I am a writer and photographer for this magazine, but I do have some freedoms when it comes to making blog posts under my name here on their site. Yes, if this article were in an upcoming issue of OP it would highlight all of the pluses and minuses of each major brand, but it is not. This was a personal mission. I have received a ton of very good information here, even on equipment that wasn’t in my consideration. And even that advice is great advice to know because I can use it when I am teaching to help clients make better personal decisions with their equipment.

    Remember no personal bashing, no equipment bashing, just sound advice as to what and why you shoot it. And thank you all for contributing up to this point.

    I’d start by looking at the lens selection issue. Which has the lenses that fits your shooting needs the best. It wouldn’t hurt to look at the flashes for both as well. Not sure about Canon, but Nikon has an amazing flash system. I can say from experience that Nikon’s can take a beating and keep on shooting! Both systems are outstanding.

    I think it would be best if you could borrow someone’s Nikon and see how you like working with it. I used to have a Nikon film camera, but I just like how a Canon handles. Just a personal thing. See if you can use one for a while to see if switching would be worth it. You might hate it or you might just love it.

    I don’t believe that by now it really ends up a matter of image quality – they are so evenly matched that differences are neglectable. It’s much more a matter of handling, how you’re getting along with a system. And – what are you going to use the equipment for.

    And @Don – sure there are other brands out there, with technically good cameras. But the background support in terms of variety in lenses/flashes/accessories is just not there – that’s the reason that basically all discussion center on these two brands.

    Go 100% iPhone!

    Hahaha, kidding… Kinda…

    Seriously, though, I do have a question. Is it really ‘gospel’ to have to stick within one system? I personally have taken a step towards using both Canon and Nikon in my photography. Yes, there’s a little overlap in lens and accessory acquisition, but is it completely unreasonable to tap into both systems? Especially since you already have a stable of decent Canon gear – could you start with upgrading to the 5D MKII to tap into the upgraded camera features, and then invest in a D3S and 1-2 Nikon lenses that fill in some of the other gaps? Or would you have to sell all of your Canon gear to switch to Nikon.

    While I don’t have the professional income from photography to justify spending tens of thousands of dollars of gear, I do have the budget room and income enough to upgrade my gear every couple of years. I recently supplemented my Nikon gear by purchasing a Canon DSLR and a few choice Canon lenses and a flash. I’ve gone back and forth as to whether I want to fully make the switch, replacing my D200 with a Canon equivalent, but since I have several favorite Nikon lenses and I really like CLS, I’m not in a big hurry. I’ve taken the time to mostly become acquainted with the Canon interface/menu system and while it’s still not quite second nature, I’m much more comfortable than I was at first. I’m sure if I wasn’t trapped in a cubicle all day and were out shooting instead I’d be much tighter. I know of several pros who tap into both and honestly get the best of both worlds.

    I know I feel like that’s the direction I’m headed. I’d LOVE to shoot sports with a D3S and nature with a 5D MK II. Both companies make some fantastic lenses that are well worth tapping into. Heck, I even started out shooting my Nikon lenses with a manual-focus adapter on my Canon. Considering that they’re pre-AI lenses they actually worked on the Canon but wouldn’t on my Nikon.

    I guess the question kinda becomes how crucial it is to manage only one system. I’ve heard lots of arguments both ways, and I know it’s sort of a mantra of the working pro. But I know I love both systems equally for different strengths. You’ll pry my ancient 28-80/2.8-4 L out of my cold dead hands. Same goes for my Nikon 400mm AI-S (which, of course, being a manual-focus lens works equally well on my Canon and Nikon DSLRs…).

    I’ve seen a few professionals who are adopting more than one system, so it’s certainly a feasible route to go. I do think it can become a problem in nature photography – especially wildlife photography – where you often have fractions of a second to get an image. Using more than one system can add unnecessary variables – focus rings in different positions from one brand to the next, key control buttons on cameras in different positions, etc. Plus, there are the quirks of each system that one must become familiar with. For example, metering systems tend to vary from one manufacturer to another. My Nikon tends to overexpose a bit in high contrast situations, while my Pentax tends to underexpose. Learning all these quirks can take a great deal of time when using only one system… when using two systems, the task can obviously be that much more difficult. I believe the less you have to think about your equipment when shooting, and the more intuitive your response is to the controls, the fewer shots you’ll miss. You can react more quickly to changing conditions, and also spend more time thinking about the artistic side of making an image. Besides, I’m not sure there’s a practical reason to shoot both Canon and Nikon. They both have deep systems with just about any lens or accessory any photographer shooting in any genre could ever need. They’re both so good, a photographer could pretty much close their eyes and pick one, and come out a winner. My personal preference is for Nikon, but that’s really all it is – a personal preference. I have great respect for Canon equipment as well. The most important thing to remember is, the final image is far more dependent on the quality of the photographer than it is on the quality of the equipment. That’s the thing that I find so amusing about so many of these my-camera-is-better-than-your-camera guys – most of them seem to spend the majority of their time reading DxO test results, and shooting pictures of test charts and brick walls. I wonder how many actually go out and try to make art with their equipment. You can create great images with a 5 year old DSLR and a consumer grade zoom. Whatever you have, just get out and shoot, and have fun. 🙂

    You will have to spend a lot of money to upgrade to Nikon Lens.. Do your self a favor, and check out the Canon 7d it is a very nice camera and handles the high iso issue.. I think the auto focus works well.. You will then be able to use your current lens. It is a good camera.

    Perhaps this article will help shed some light on the subject:

    Though the article is dated January 2008, it seems that much of the info contained in it is applicable today. I’d love to see it re-done, with a D3s vs. 1D IV, and perhaps appropriate comparisons with a D700 and a 7D or 5DII. Though I’ve got a bunch of Canon equipment, I, too, feel that Nikon has stepped up to the plate with some great gear that will certainly turn heads. Both of photographers and photo editors …

    Canon f4L zoom lens are as superb optically as their f2.8L lenses. Landscape photographers have little need for the faster lenses. Nikon does not have f4 fixed apeture zoom lenses. This motivated my switch after 20 years of lugging the heavy f2.8 Nikon zooms.

    Hi Jay- I’m from Bellingham, so the Mt. Baker image piqued my interest. I’m trying to view your portfolio on your website, but if I click, say, skiing or mountain biking, I get an annoying HP commercial and the page upload stops there.

    Using Lion/Safari if that helps!

    Thought you should know this!

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